Comments on: Is Everything About Contemporary Worship Good?

By: Charlie

Charlie — Wed, 17 Jun 2009 20:17:42 +0000

I agree with you Scott in that the determination is in the heart of worship not the genre of the music.

I think however you misunderstood what I was saying. I never stated Jesus came to shake things up, he came to seek and save the lost (Luke 19:10) I also never stated that Jesus said that he meant to shake things up. I implied by his actions it is a safe assumption that those were his intentions. By the scripture you mentioned in John 8, in addition to the numerous occasions Jesus chastised the Pharisees for their traditional way of thinking; I believe we can state that Jesus was not supportive of closed hearts and ears, and meant to challenge (shake up) their way of thinking.

My point is not only in reference to worship but our spiritual condition as a whole. If our hearts and minds are not open to hear the voice of the bridegroom we won’t hear Him.

By: Scott Mitchell

Scott Mitchell — Sat, 13 Jun 2009 22:22:01 +0000

Nice post. I believe it was Chris Tomlin who did an awesome arrangement of “Amazing Grace”, which was a song that in it’s day was seen as contemporary. I think the issue is not contemporary or traditional I think the issue is, is there worship, or is there a concert? We can worship God in many ways but we must make sure that He is party to the worship. Worship cannot exist where God is not the focus.

“Jesus meant to shake up the traditionalists and tell them that there was more to God’s glory in so many ways, and if they would open their eyes and ears they would see and hear what the Father wanted them to know. God’s glory is revealed in new ways to us everyday if we shut our minds to it because we don’t understand or it’s different than it used to be, then we potentially shut out the truth or blessing that God had in store for us”.

I’m not sure this is 100% accurate. I think Jesus stated exactly why He came and never once did He say He was here to “shake things up. I believe His point was that He was the Son of God and they need not wait for the Light because the LIght is here, and they should know that because they where educated. See John 8.

I must say this was a god post. I enjoy both forms of worship. I have seen both at MBU and have found that the issue tends tobe the heart of the leader and less in regards to the music chosen..

By: Charlie

Charlie — Sat, 13 Jun 2009 21:53:08 +0000

Nice post. I am totally in line with you on the blessing that people like Christ Tomlin and Reuben Morgan have brought to Christian Worship. I also agree that the answer to the separatists is not a Sunday morning traditional service and a Sunday night contemporary service. I believe that puts both sets of people in a mind set that says they don’t need to understand those “other” people. I personally don’t think you cater to congregation. If it all is in line with truth and you have a problem with it I don’t think the church is the one that needs to change.

Jesus meant to shake up the traditionalists and tell them that there was more to God’s glory in so many ways, and if they would open their eyes and ears they would see and hear what the Father wanted them to know. God’s glory is revealed in new ways to us everyday if we shut our minds to it because we don’t understand or it’s different than it used to be, then we potentially shut out the truth or blessing that God had in store for us.

I ain’t touchin your last paragraph…..